The Devil's Advocate wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:07 am
To be fair, the examples were generally unimpressive, though the position is correct. Drmies can be a real nasty asshole to people and was, in fact, that way towards the person filing that ANI in the discussion linked about the Sarah Jeong dispute. He was like that to me many times and I kept trying to be the bigger person, but he just didn't stop behaving that way. Seeing how he treated Auerbach after Gamaliel had gone after the guy's job pretty much sealed it for me. Just another crooked admin who abuses his position and needs to be called out.
Yeah, that's true. But I was mostly upset with the "blue wall of silence" thing happening again where abusive admins are being protected by admins who are their friends. I could have voiced my criticism about his actions in that ANI thread, but I couldn't because either they're closed instantly or then everything will be boomeranged to the point it's ridiculous. I'm sure you're aware of Drmies indef blocking users because their nickname starts with "Kek" based on a made-up policy and doing that with a personal attack, since IIRC you wrote an article about it. Basically, even if you're an admin who's supposed to act better than others according to ADMINCOND, you can go telling people to 'fuck off' for years before you will be brought to ArbCom.
I could tell some background information about my Wikipedia experience related to these kind of issues if anyone cares. I used to defend some "men's rights" editors (like Memills) in 2012 and 2013, because I found the sanction implementation really crazy with a few clearly "progressive feminist" admins wikilawyering well-meaning users and handing blocks despite having had conflicts with the MRM editors themselves. That admin abuse was clearly politicized and also streched to topics like evolutionary psychology (Memills is a professor of EP). The core of the problem was that only a handful of admins were enforcing the sanctions, and they chose to volunteer for it because they hated the 'reactionaries'.
I have one block because of this, which was made for a bogus reason and then repealed, in Wikipedia. Some users wanted to create a Wikiproject called Men's Issues and it was instantly attacked by the admin clique. I critiqued the bad-faith approach, and in the edit accidentally altered Cailil's comment because I had lost track of the line I was writing my comment on (that happens when you focus on other browser tabs...). What I inserted in his message was pretty much that was in my own comment and made no sense in his comment. I was blocked for one week without any questions asked by KillerChihuahua, another feminist admin enforcing the sactions for it. I asked for a block review and DangerousPanda called me a liar in the decline reason. I filed another review. Five days later Tariqabjotu unblocked me and said my explanation made perfect sense. Bwilkins aka DangerousPanda attacked him harshly for unblocking me. A long ANI thread ensued
. I guess that back in 2013 the atmosphere at ANI was more neutral and the community found that my unblocking was the right thing to do and DangerousPanda made incivil comments, although the ANI thread was closed because there won't be a "head on a platter" moment according to the closer. Admins protecting other admins. DangerousPanda is probably the most incivil admin there ever has been, having dropped F-bombs all the time and telling editors he blocked to 'rot in hell'. Eventually he got an ArbCom case filed by MrX, in which I and Memills submitted evidence as well, and he was desysopped. But he was allowed to go on for years before that happened.
I must say that Wikipedia, and life, hasn't been that gentle on the admins who were abusive towards the early MRM editors. Kaldari was desysopped. Kevin Gorman was desysopped (and deceased). Dreadstar was desysopped (and deceased). Gamaliel was admonished by the ArbCom. Bbb23 was the last admin who kept blocking Memills as his self-appointed parole officer, despite having heated arguments with him on his talk page. FYI, Bbb23 called my criticism of his close a "personal attack"