ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by Flip Flopped » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:10 pm

Mendaliv is making good points at AN about the entire nature of way Arbs conduct themselves on WP. The Wikipedians don't understand what he's saying.

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by Proabivouac » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:38 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:06 am
After one of the drafting arbitrators, Mkdw, criticized TRM for not presenting evidence or analysis in the case, TRM got fussy with him and was promptly hit with a two-week block by Mkdw's fellow arbitrator GorillaWarfare.
Mkdw has repeatedly had his own userpage deleted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... ser%3AMkdw

What's he trying to hide? His brief description of his business makes him sound like an international human trafficker:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... /Mkdw#Mkdw

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by The Devil's Advocate » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:14 pm

Proabivouac wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:38 pm
Mkdw has repeatedly had his own userpage deleted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... ser%3AMkdw

What's he trying to hide? His brief description of his business makes him sound like an international human trafficker:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... /Mkdw#Mkdw
International transracial adoption makes me think of Madonna. Certainly it is a controversial field of work. Admittedly, I didn't pay much attention to the 2016 ArbCom election and didn't pick up on the fact Mkdw is another from the gender gap brigade. Given GorillaWarfare's involvement in that topic I wonder if that is why she was so quick on the trigger with TRM.

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by Proabivouac » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:59 pm

I was thinking more Daniel Carleton Gajdusek.
The Devil's Advocate wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:14 pm
International transracial adoption makes me think of Madonna.
Funnily enough, one of his earliest edits was a request to merge this "biography of Madonna" with the main article about her:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... d=77319794

I've started a thread about Mkdw in the "Editors" section of this site:

viewtopic.php?f=25&p=2689#p2689

He seems influential enough to warrant closer scrutiny.

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by The Devil's Advocate » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:00 pm

They have posted the proposed decision and as of the moment all the remedies and findings concern Arthur Rubin. However, TRM may not be entirely out of the woods as one of the principles in the case concerns "conduct on arbitration pages" and that cannot possibly concern Rubin on account of him not even participating on any of the case pages. It is clear this is meant to apply to TRM's outburst at Mkdw, due to which TRM is still unable to participate in the case except through e-mail. So will this just be some weird unrelated principle in a final decision or are Arbs taking more time to consider their actions regarding TRM? The locus of the dispute was construed more narrowly than the scope of the case in their findings, so it would suggest they are not looking at his conduct.

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by The Devil's Advocate » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:22 pm

The current proposed decision page has been largely untouched for a week. It is clear the decision favors removal of Rubin's admin tools and all but one part is passing, that due to lack of votes. However, not a single arbitrator has voted to close the case as of yet. Doubt they would hold up the decision over a declaration that an admin they are likely desysopping didn't breach WP:INVOLVED. Raises the question of what they might be discussing behind the scenes. May well be that some are hotly debating some kind of action against TRM, but are bitterly divided on the matter.

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Re: ArbCom case on Arthur Rubin-Rambling Man tiff opened

Post by Proabivouac » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:53 pm

They are making this too complicated. The criterion for desysopping should be the simple question of fact, is the accused a WIkipedia administrator?

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