The Efficacy of Bans

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The Efficacy of Bans

Post by The Joy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:30 pm

Jerry "Tycho Brahe" Holkins:
Bans are a public relations coup; the more public they are, the more efficacious. People love to see the hammer come down. Unless you look up and see it yourself, o’erhead, you feel safer knowing that the placid, featureless face of this hammer is elsewhere, even for a moment.

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Re: The Efficacy of Bans

Post by Flip Flopped » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:40 am

It's interesting to consider the extent to which bans cannot be avoided for sites to exist. That's nearly always much less than the actual amount of banning. Wikipedia could improve so much if they would listen to some of the people they banned who were in the end actually trying to make Wikipedia more accurate.

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Re: The Efficacy of Bans

Post by Proabivouac » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:50 am

Flip Flopped wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:40 am
It's interesting to consider the extent to which bans cannot be avoided for sites to exist.
Sites can easily exist without bans, just not those which invite all comers and their pseuds without preconditions and give them free reign to modify the content. It's the flipside of "anyone can edit."

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Re: The Efficacy of Bans

Post by EarlStatler » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:46 am

No Pro. On Wikipedia-NL the most of the ban-wonderes are or formal, or informal know by there real names. There are list going around in the "silk road", with a who is who lists, made and distributed by angry old Comrades I suppose, because in the past you found that list from time to time in your mailbox. Name, age, etc. I think it is one of the problems, and maybe not even the main probelm.
And blocks on wikipedia are a weapon from the conservative free source idiots, who want to collect "knowlege" and distribute it in a pirate way, because they are a movement, even with a political background. And they want to collect a lot of money with there proven Web-2 earning system of course, and wanted to protect that system with their bans and blocks.
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Re: The Efficacy of Bans

Post by Flip Flopped » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:19 pm

Proabivouac wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:50 am
Flip Flopped wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:40 am
It's interesting to consider the extent to which bans cannot be avoided for sites to exist.
Sites can easily exist without bans, just not those which invite all comers and their pseuds without preconditions and give them free reign to modify the content. It's the flipside of "anyone can edit."
Yes, you either have to vet people on the front end or the back end. Even Citizendium did that part better.

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